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Can We Jettison Apocalypticism?Posted by Scott Haile under apocalypticism, inspiration of scripture | | |
Matt was raising the question under my last post whether Christianity could simply do away with its claim to end-time supremacy –– what I would call its apocalypticism –– and be ultimately better off. Or to put it another way, can you be a Christian but not think that God will condemn non-believers at the end of time? With apologies to Matt, I’m not really going to consider here the suggestion that the Gospel writers added all of Jesus’ apocalypticism to his “real” teachings when they wrote the Gospels. I just don’t think that’s a reasonable historical claim, based on a number of points. It seems to me that scholars who do try to claim Jesus wasn’t apocalyptic are simply trying to salvage a Jesus they like, and as a result they are left without any reasonable explanation for how Christianity came to be so thoroughly apocalyptic, as evidenced by just about every book in the New Testament. What’s more, pretty much the whole impetus behind apocalyptic literature is a preoccupation with justice and the belief that God will vindicate the righteous and punish the wicked, so I’m not sure how we could keep some apocalypticism and do away with Christ’s end-time supremacy (i.e., the idea that he will vindicate the righteous and punish the wicked), either. NEW REVELATIONS IN SCRIPTURE So, setting aside the historical question, I’d like to deal with this as an honest theological question. Can we strip Christianity of its apocalypticism –– that is, the idea of a coming end-time judgment in which people are judged and given either eternal life or eternal death based on their religious commitments and behavior –– and still have a viable religion? Or more importantly to my mind, does God intend for us to somehow move beyond apocalyptic Christianity and embrace Christ as the founder a different kind of faith? First of all, if we’re taking the Bible as a fully authoritative and final guide to truth about God, then the question pretty much falls apart. Virtually every part of the New Testament depends on this notion of a final judgment, and committment to Jesus is always central to the kind of judgment that’s going to take place. So to set aside apocalypticism, you have to assume that descriptions in the Bible about how God deals with people are not necessarily eternally true. This may sound offensive at first, but it’s implicit in all the covenants reflected in Scripture, and it’s lurking in the background whenever the New Testament explains what Jesus’ death and resurrection mean––that they somehow replace the way God dealth with people under the old covenant. One important point to realize is that the Old Testament reflects traditions from hundreds of years, and often its ideas about God change from an earlier time to a later. For example, different parts of the Old Testament disagree on how God deals with human wickedness: does God punish sin to the third and fourth generation (Ex 20:5), or does God only punish the person who commits a sin (Ezek 18:20), or are prosperity and suffering pretty much independent of whether a person is loyal to God (Job)? We could take these as contradictions of one another (which I admit I’m prone to do), but they could also be seen simply as God choosing to deal with people differently at different times. The implication is that God may have said one thing then, but he’s saying something different now. END-TIME REWARD AND PUNISHMENT? To get closer to the point we’re dealing with here –– whether the church can lay aside its apocalyptic theolgoy –– I think it’s significant that the Sinai Covenant and the early history of Israel don’t say anything about an afterlife. The people of God were to be given a promised land, but there was no real notion of what would happen to them after death. They did have a sort of mythical idea of Sheol, which is essentially the same thing as Hades in Greek thought, a sort of land of the dead. Rather than an actual afterlife, it appears to be a netherworld of only partial existence, more dull and hazy than joyful or painful. As for heaven, it was described as the place where God and the angels were, but not as the place people went after they died. Elijah may have been taken up to heaven, but he went there alive, and anyway there’s no indication in the early history of Israel that righteous people in general expected to earn such an honor. When Saul raises Samuel’s ghost (a bizarre story in 1 Sam 28:3-25), Samuel comes up from the ground (28:13), not down from heaven. Later on, however, God’s promises become grander. At the end of Isaiah, for example, we read about “new heavens and a new earth” (65:17; 66:22), in the day when God will set things right again. Yet it looks like this will all happen on earth, where people will continue to grow old and die (Isa 65:20). Isaiah’s vision is a lot like later apocalyptic teachings, but it doesn’t fit with what we see in Revelation (e.g., Rev 21:4). Then we have the book of Daniel, which is set after Persia conquers Babylon in 539 B.C., but which was probably written after certain political events in Jerusalem in 167 B.C. It describes an actual resurrection of the dead at the end of time –– the only passage in the Old Testament that talks about this. Regardless of when the book was written, it claims that Daniel is told to keep his writings secret until the “time of the end” (Dan 12:4), which means that the message about the resurrection was not intended for people who lived earlier. So what am I saying? Moses thought that the promised land was the best thing there was. Isaiah thought that God’s ultimate deliverance would be just like earthly life, only better. Daniel thought people would rise from the dead to eternal life, but he wasn’t supposed to tell anyone about it until after about 167 B.C. Whatever you think about biblical inerrancy, it is difficult to deny that later biblical stories expand on the ideas from earlier stories. Just exactly what God will do is not the same in every part of Scripture, but instead we can see certain kinds of trajectories (maybe agreeing or maybe disagreeing with one another) that lead us into a huge assortment of Jewish literature in the centuries before Jesus. Much of that literature (especially 1 Enoch and the Dead Sea Scrolls) is heavily influenced by apocalyptic ideas. By the time Jesus came around, many (but not all) Jews believed in the kind of salvation Daniel talked about, that at the end of time God will raise all the dead to be judged, at which time the righteous will be rewarded with eternal life while the wicked will be punished in hell. People naturally had different ideas about just who the “righteous” were. Jesus continued this kind of teaching, as did all the authors whose books ended up in the New Testament. DOES IT STOP THERE? So the question is: Is that the final word on the matter? Before we conclude too hastily that of course Jesus’ words are eternally true, it is important to remember that Jesus’ teachings about a final judgment were not given to the people in early Israel. Yet I don’t think most of us would conclude, based on that, that God was lying to Israel through Moses. Rather, the entire history of the writing of the Bible consists of a mixture of affirming, reinterpreting, and overturning previously-held beliefs about God. And it doesn’t quite work to say that God stopped revealing new things when Jesus came, because development continues even in the New Testament. 2 Peter is written to people who are pretty obviously anxious because Jesus’ promise to return “soon” doesn’t seem to have come true. Their neighbors are starting to mock them (3:4), and Peter reassures them by reinterpreting what his church thought they knew about the end: “with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day” (3:8). Appropriately, this line is a virtual quotation from the Book of Jubilees (4:30), a popular Jewish text which used the line to try to explain why Adam didn’t die on the same day he ate the fruit. Both of these texts are unwilling to say that the scripture they are interpreting is untrue, but both of them use reinterpretation to radically change what others considered to be the plain meaning of the earlier text. HOW DOES THE CHURCH USE THE BIBLE? Even for those who agree with this analysis, I don’t really think it gives us a clear answer for what to do with apocalypticism. So we are left with our three options: we can affirm, reinterpret, or overturn. Should we assume, then, that since Jesus taught extensively (if ambiguously) about the end of the world, Christians are compelled to hold that same teaching? Or should we argue that God calls on the church to continually reinterpret the teachings of Scripture, perhaps seeing the end as a judgment outside of time, rather than a literal historical return of Jesus to earth? Or should we consider overturning the apocalyptic teachings of Jesus, suggesting perhaps that God wanted the church to hold to apocalypticism for a time, but that now we are to move on to other ways of understanding the world? I tend to go with the first option, because I think the New Testament is too thoroughly apocalyptic for the teaching to be in any way optional. To use a medical analogy: You can remove a lung or a kidney, but you can’t remove, say, all the bone marrow from a person and expect their body to still function. I imagine we’ll have some other perspectives here, though. |
November 11th, 2007 at 11:35 am
Sorry, super busy with a work deadline, so I’m having a hard time participating. =P
November 14th, 2007 at 8:57 pm
“can you be a Christian but not think that God will condemn non-believers at the end of time?”
I guess this is the question I have a clear opinion about. I use the word “Christian” in several different ways, but I think it would be perfectly fine to use the word to describe a person who follows Jesus as a moral exemplar, but who doesn’t subscribe to any particular theology. I can imagine an agnostic or even atheistic Christian.
But most of the time, when people use the word Christian, they’re probably not intending it in that broad sense. Instead, they’re meaning to indicate a person who ascribes to certain traditions and theologies that center on Jesus of Nazareth. So if the question is, “can we jettison apocalypticism and still fit the common definition of Christian,” then my answer is, “probably not today.” That answer might change depending on where our culture moves.
But really, I don’t care much about meeting the common definition of Christian. And so I guess there’s another question from the post : “does God intend for us to somehow move beyond apocalyptic Christianity and embrace Christ as the founder a different kind of faith?”
To the first part of that question — does God intend for us to move beyond apocalyptic Christianity — I guess I’d answer “Yes, definitely.” But that’s also because I believe that apocalyptic, exclusivistic Christianity is false. It contradicts my understanding of who God is. And as I’ve said before, God’s goodness is kind of a basic theological axiom for me. I start there, and then go wherever needs going. So for me, it’s clear that regardless of how much great biblical scholarship a person might do, the apocalyptic texts are antithetical to a good God, and so must be reinterpreted or rejected. But if you start with different axioms, I expect you’ll end up in a differnt place.
November 14th, 2007 at 10:14 pm
First, I tend to agree with Scott, that the apocalypticism of Jesus should be affirmed.
I am wondering this, How does someone come to the conclusion that God is good? Other than a personal revelation from God, it would seem that you would need to rely on some form of religious tradition or text to come to that conclusion. If a text or tradition is what forms your understanding of God’s goodness, it doesn’t seem responsible to take essentially what you hope God is like and ignore the rest.
It is interesting to me, Matt, that you don’t believe in exclusivistic Christianity because you believe that God is good. Yet, I do believe in exclusivistic Christianity while also believing that God is good. Why are the two mutually exclusive?
November 15th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
“it doesn’t seem responsible to take essentially what you hope God is like and ignore the rest.”
Isn’t that what everyone does?
Even if your idea of God comes from a specific religious text or tradition, aren’t you just taking what you hope God is like (hoping that your religion is right) and ignoring the rest of what the world has to say about God?
November 15th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
I think that’s basically true that everyone takes what they like, but there’s also a question of whether people respect the integrity of the ideas they’re espousing.
So for example, there are conservatives who takes Jesus’ apocalypticism but basically ignore his pacifism. I could argue that that’s wrong simply because I think pacifism is important, but a stronger argument is that pacifism was at the core of who Jesus was, so it’s not something you can ignore and still claim to do any kind of justice to who Jesus was. I’m suggesting the flip side, that apocalypticism was just as central to Jesus’ mission and teachings, so someone who wants to follow Jesus can’t give it up either.
Now, there are historical Jesus scholars who want to drive a wedge between the two by claiming that the historical Jesus was pacifistic but not apocalyptic — that the early church added apocalypticism to his teachings when they wrote the canonical Gospels. It’s easy to see why this historical claim would be appealing to people, because it allows them to say that apocalypticism wasn’t part of who Jesus really was, so you can ignore it and still respect the integrity of who Jesus was.
This is also a big part of why people want “Q” (a source apparently used in writing Matthew and Luke) to be a genuine “Gospel” and why they want to date the Gospel of Thomas early. Those two don’t have (if I remember correctly) apocalyptic ideas, so Jesus comes across as more of a mystical teacher of wisdom. That’s an extremely appealing kind of Jesus for our religious landscape, because without apocalyptic ideas he’s no longer divisive.
So, it seems that the historical claims about the time of Jesus tend to depend on the ideological preferences for today, rather than the other way around. This is why no one seems able to do objective research on the historical Jesus.
I actually would take some of those arguments that I disagree with as implicit approval of my approach to the question. In other words, it seems to me that historians who work hard to prove that Jesus wasn’t apocalyptic are doing so because they agree (to some extent) that if he were, one would not be able to simply dismiss it and still be true to Jesus. I think they would tend to agree with my insistence on respecting the integrity of a theological tradition.
But it sounds like Cody and Matt would say that it’s ok to drop apocalypticism even if it was a core of the historical Jesus’ message. That might be possible, but I’d still go back and say it doesn’t respect the integrity of who Jesus was, historically.
November 15th, 2007 at 2:35 pm
True, if Jesus was apocalyptic and we drop the apocalypticism it isn’t respectful of the person of Jesus, historically. Or at least, it isn’t respectful of his whole message.
But I don’t deny that Jesus’ message is apocalyptic in the Gospels. I haven’t taken a razor blade to my Bible just yet. But there are two factors in my position. First of all, I think that the Gospels were written by people who had interpreted the words of Jesus. I think that Jesus probably did say things that were apocalyptic in nature. But I don’t think it was at the heart of his message, instead it seems that the present Kingdom of God was at the heart of his message. I think that the apocalyptic heart of the Gospels could be a product of interpretation of Jesus’ words by apostles and others.
Secondly, I think it is possible that we (general church people) have misinterpreted the apocalypticism of Jesus. I’m not sure how, and I don’t have a completely formed reinterpretation. I just think it is possible.
November 15th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
Cody wrote: “I think it is possible that we (general church people) have misinterpreted the apocalypticism of Jesus.”
One suggestion I’ve heard in this direction is that apocalyptic literature is best suited (and was composed by) people who were out of power. The idea behind most of it is that the world is unjust — because wicked powers are in control — but we have faith that God will show up and set things right, matching the unjust powers’ violence with some violence of God’s own. Often the image used is that of a judge punishing wrongdoing, rather than a conqueror fighting a war.
The difficulty of this comes when people in power start thinking apocalyptically, because they have the means to carry out violence on whoever they think is doing wrong. The line between war and carrying out justice blurs. The present neo-imperialism of the United States is an obvious case in point.
The catch is, Jewish apocalyptic texts (I think all of them, though my knowledge is hardly complete here) depended on God acting first, often through some kind of messianic figure who would show up and lead the people in the judgment or war that would set things Right. Some kind of divine intervention would have been necessary, because most of these Jewish communities (for example, the folks who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls) weren’t strong enough to oppose the earthly powers around them on their own.
Christians now, of course, believe that our messiah has already come, which I suppose some Christians take to open up the possibility of us using violence now, presumably to usher in the kingdom of God. But that requires a complete butcher-job of the New Testament, where Jesus explicitly leaves behind his followers to begin ushering in the kingdom only through peace, with the expectation that Jesus will someday use violence to user it in completely — which is what Revelation describes.
If anyone is interested, I have a couple of posts related to these questions here and here.
November 15th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
“Even if your idea of God comes from a specific religious text or tradition, aren’t you just taking what you hope God is like (hoping that your religion is right) and ignoring the rest of what the world has to say about God?”
I was making the assumption that the person is claiming to be a Christian. If we are opening the box to include other religious text or teachings, then of course we have to pick what we like. My point is that if we are following Jesus, then we how can we cast aside some parts of the gospels, when those documents are our most reliable sources for the person and teaching of Jesus.
November 15th, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Maybe, but I’m not completely convinced that the Gospels are, in fact, the most reliable sources for the person and teaching of Jesus, and certainly not the complete source. Not yet, anyway. And that is how I can cast aside some parts of the gospels.
November 16th, 2007 at 10:16 pm
“I am wondering this, How does someone come to the conclusion that God is good?”
An axiom is the exact opposite of a conclusion.
November 18th, 2007 at 1:09 pm
what matthew said at 10:16 pm.
November 18th, 2007 at 10:56 pm
Forgive my misreading.
November 19th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
> Forgive my misreading
I can see how that would be an easy thing to gloss over. People probably use that word a lot and don’t really mean it.
So speaking of axioms, I’m wondering whether one of Scott’s axioms is, “all of scripture is in some sense true,” or something like that. Because it seems like Scott has a much higher regard for the text than Colby or I, and I wonder whether that’s based on evidence or whether that’s a belief he just has to begin with.
November 21st, 2007 at 2:58 am
I think my axiom might be something closer to, “God wants Christians to read Scripture as if all of it is in some sense true.” The evidence I can point to (to try to make it more than an axiom, I suppose) is basically the church’s reliance on a pretty consistent set of Scriptures for almost its entire existence.
There are at least three catches here:
(1) The collection is only pretty consistent, since it took a long time to decide on border-line books, plus Catholics and various groups of Eastern Christians still have books Protestants don’t use.
(2) There was no Christian Scripture at all for the first few decades after Jesus.
(3) This seems to be a circular argument.
The way I’d overcome the first two of these is by positing that God’s providence is at work within the church. If that’s not the case, then we have to seriously rethink our ideas about election and the Holy Spirit, and if that is the case, then surely we must assume that the reason we have all paid so much attention to this collection of books is that God wants us to.
As for circularity, I just don’t see any way around it. What we have is the Christian tradition as it exists, heavily dependant on the collection of books (with variations) that have traditionally been called canon by the various Christian groups. If these books are basically wrong, then we’d have to say that pretty much the entirety of the Christian church is detached from the truth about Christ.
One potential antidote to that problem is to try to get rid of everything except the historical Jesus, but there are really good reasons to believe that historians will inevitably just invent a Jesus they like. I suppose some of these folks could actually be correct, but I’m not sure how we would know if they were.
So to an extent I am left with an axiom, which I can’t show to be completely grounded. But I can say with confidence that it’s based on the earliest known interpretations of who Jesus was (Paul and the canonical Gospels), and that it’s been tested and lived in almost every way imaginable over the course of nearly 2000 years.
November 21st, 2007 at 3:31 pm
How does the fact that it has been tested and lived in almost every way imaginable of the course of nearly 2000 years (knowing a bit about how that has looked) ground your axiom?
Off topic, but you might be interested: The Hebrew Bible prof. at Iliff went to Princeton with Andre Resner. He made reference to Andre in class one day and I confirmed that it was indeed Resner. Small world, huh?
November 24th, 2007 at 10:40 pm
“God wants Christians to read Scripture as if all of it is in some sense true.”
That’s a pretty complicated axiom. What about this other sentence instead:
“God’s providence is at work within the church.”
Seems like that belief might be providing support for both ideas: that the canon is the text that God wants us to have, and that we have been reasonably good at understanding what God meant for it to say.
I’m sure you can see how this axiom might lead you to drastically different conclusions than those reached by a person who wasn’t willing to grant that God specially favors the Christian church.
Case in point:
“there are really good reasons to believe that historians will inevitably just invent a Jesus they like. I suppose some of these folks could actually be correct, but I’m not sure how we would know if they were.”
People who are a bit more skeptical would probably be inclined to replace “historians” with “Bible scholars”.
November 24th, 2007 at 11:20 pm
@cody:
Well, I’m admitting that I have to call it an axiom because I can’t ground it, at least not completely. As for the 2000 years of history, I’d just point out that a lot of religions haven’t endured this long, so there’s at least something about the Christian scriptures that stands up to scrutiny. This scrutiny has, of course, revealed a lot of problems, which is why I have to fall back on an axiom rather than having an iron-clad argument.
November 24th, 2007 at 11:34 pm
@matt:
Well, I obviously do hold to the presupposition/axiom that God is at work in the church, but that doesn’t really tell us what to do with Scripture once we have it. There’s a big difference between holding on to the traditional tenets of the faith and reinterpreting the canon to effectively excise parts that don’t stand up to more recent worldviews. I’ll readily admit that God could providentially intend either one of those approaches (or some other) for the church.
It doesn’t seem to me that a providential God would leave things completely up to human reasoning, so I also ascribe to this other axiom about Scripture –– though, as I say, I don’t think it’s completely without ground.
As for replacing “historians” with “Bible scholars,” it’s true that most people who study the historical Jesus are Bible scholars (as opposed to just historians), but I’m not sure your implication that Bible scholars (as opposed to historians) are more likely to have sympathy for Christian tradition really holds up.
In fact, a good number of Bible scholars get into the field because they are believers, but lose their faith by the time they get their Ph.D.’s. That group is just as likely to attack traditional views of Jesus as believing scholars are (sometimes) to defend them.
Bible scholars indeed follow the Jesus they like as well, it’s just that some of us like the Jesus that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John described –– at least moreso than do more skeptical scholars, and at least to the extent that we can understand exactly what those four writers meant to say about him.
I would admit that I probably have as much bias as scholars like Bart Erhman and Elaine Pagels, who challenge traditional views of Jesus. But I’m not at all sure that I have any more bias than they do.
November 25th, 2007 at 10:28 am
I have a comment and a question.
There is a (relatively) famous moment in the history of literary criticism in which a Freudian interpretation of Hamlet was rejected with the argument Shakespeare could not possibly have had access to a future paradigm. Two critics, Rene Wellek and Robert Penn Warren, rebutted the argument with the thesis that the timelessness and universality of true literature mean a literary work continues to be relevant and true regardless of, and inclusive of, the operative paradigm.
In short, if apocalypticism was the paradigm of Jesus’ day, and if apocalypticism is not our contemporary paradigm, then there has to be a credible interpretation that incorporates – not ignores – the apocalyptic content of the Gospels into our “My God wouldn’t do anything like that” paradigm. I have no idea if any such interpretation exists (although Cody points credibly in the direction of one).
My question comes from your quote: “Now, there are historical Jesus scholars who want to drive a wedge between the two by claiming that the historical Jesus was pacifistic but not apocalyptic — that the early church added apocalypticism to his teachings when they wrote the canonical Gospels.”
This isn’t the first time I’ve heard the assertion that much post-crucifixion content was appended to Christian scriptures (including the resurrection account in Mark having been appended after its “first edition”). Given the evolution of ideas and beliefs in those times and those places, it makes sense that contemporary writing would incorporate the current and local frame of reference.
I tend to put a lot of trust in what scholars have to say about such questions. However, as an amateur, I have no real way of distinguishing between: first, reliable scholarly works from those that look or sound like the same (I cannot think of any Biblical examples, but in my college days, African Genesis was an example of a non-scholar, Robert Ardrey, promoting a scholar’s thesis about the evolution of man from a particular ape. Closer to home might be When God Was A Woman by the non-scholar but obviously well-read Merlin Stone whose house of cards depends on every single presupposition being true.); secondly, serious scholarly works that dispute one another’s data and/or conclusions. I don’t have the tools to make an informed decision about what it is I’m reading.
Any suggestions how I might separate the wheat from the chaff in this particular argument, and then (short of the subjective elements of what I believe, what I prefer, how talented the writer is, what I’m familiar with, etc.) how to choose between the red wheat and the white?
P.S. I have a difficult time reconciling a pacifist Jesus with the Jesus who lost his temper and assaulted the temple money changers.
November 25th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
@cody:
I just realized that I skipped over part of your question, I think. It sounds like you were pointing out who badly people have acted as a result of their readings of the Scriptures over 2000 years.
Some of the bad things Christians have done are pretty much grounded in a faithful interpretation of the text, the subjugation of women being a case in point. This is at least mitigated by the New Testament’s constant insistence that men treat women with love and respect, plus we have texts that point toward a little more equality. So we at least have some resources within Scripture to ground the equality of women.
And anyway, it’s not at all obvious that a Western world that wasn’t influenced by the egalitarian ideas of Christianity would have concluded on its own that women were equal. It’s not my impression that large cultural groups in China, Japan, or the Middle East are doing that much for the equality of women. I’m sure people debate whether the USA’s slightly better record on this front is a result of our Christianity or our secularism.
Other things Christians have done, like using/abusing violence, require a misinterpretation (in my opinion) of the New Testament, which never once, to my knowledge, tells a Christian to kill another person. My sense is that Christians who use violence and Christians who don’t have sometimes alternated and often coexisted throughout history. But there are good reasons to argue that the latter are more nearly following what the New Testament actually says.
This isn’t to deny that there is a ton of horrifically violent material in the Old Testament, but for Christians, the NT should make pretty clear that Jesus is teaching a different set of rules when it comes to violence. I’m not sure the people who have misread this point have all that much of an excuse. In any event, we know better now.
So my point is that the Christian scriptures have been lived well and poorly at different times, but there are good arguments that the worst “livings” rely on distortion of Scriptures, while parts of Scripture that do promote what we would call injustice can at least be tempered by other parts of Scripture.
To me, that’s not too bad of a track record.
November 27th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
Charles-
One thing to look out for is books that seem to be seeking publicity by making shocking claims, which are almost always over-stated. The historical Jesus and the Gnostic Gospels both get a lot of books written about them, because people buy anything with the name Jesus on it, especially if it promises scandal or the “real” story.
Other than that, you might try reading book reviews from scholarly journals, like Journal of Biblical Literature, Catholic Biblical Quarterly, Novum Testamentum, New Testament Studies, Expository Times, and Journal of Theological Studies. I’d say if you read three reviews, you’ll probably get a good idea of what scholars think.
Trick is, you have to have a good library nearby. If you find one, just go and ask for a computer with access to the ATLA (American Theological Library Association) database, then type the title of the book into the search engine. Sometimes the reviews are posted online, other times you have to pull the journals off the shelf.
To be specific, for anyone interested in the historical Jesus, I’d recommend E.P. Sanders, either The Historical Figure of Jesus (less technical) or Jesus and Judaism (more technical). For a good discussion of several different historical Jesus scholars, read Mark Allan Powell’s Jesus as a Figure in History.
November 27th, 2007 at 3:32 pm
Hey Scott, I think it would be helpful for you to post some reading suggestions related to your posts, if you have suggestions. These are the kinds of things I’m interested in and can justify reading because they are connected (sometimes more closely than others) to my studies. Just a thought, and a way for you to do even more work on your blog! If you need more suggestions on ways to spend time let me know…
November 30th, 2007 at 9:46 am
That’s a good idea –– I’ll try to start doing that.
Let me just repeat that on the present topic, Sanders’ Historical Figure of Jesus really is an excellent book. He reads the Gospels critically, but he doesn’t go overboard with his skepticism like someone like John Dominic Crossan.
The introductory chapters are worth the price of the book: Sanders gives a brief and clear explanation of the political situation in first-century Palestine, he outlines the main features of Judaim of that time (Sanders would rate in the top 5 scholars in the world in that area), and he also makes a clear, common-sense case for why we need to read the Gospels critically, rather than assuming that every word was straight from the mouth of Jesus.
Also, Sanders is a gracious writer, which means that even people who disagree with him will probably reading him. The book is clearly written, it reads quickly, and I think 281 pages is a modest enough length that it won’t waste anyone’s time. Plus you can get it brand new on Amazon for less than $11.
OK, so much for the sales pitch.
December 2nd, 2007 at 7:58 am
Scott: thank you for your suggestions. I really appreciate this site and all its discussion.
December 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Just a follow up: I’m about a quarter of the way through Sanders’ The Historical Figure of Jesus. This is exactly the kind of work I was interested in. I also have a local university with access to ATLA on campus with the purchase of a community access card. When I finish the Sanders book, I’m planning to try accessing ATLA to look at different reviews of Sanders’ book. Again, thank you very much for pointing me in these directions.
December 16th, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Great, I’m glad that was helpful. I’ve really enjoyed reading Sanders’ stuff, so I’m glad you’re enjoying it too.
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