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A friend of mine from seminary rejects Christian claims of exclusivity because he says it amounts to God giving humanity a multiple choice test, whose “correct” answer is essentially arbitrary, with heaven and hell on the line. With so many religions that are similar in so many ways, would God really damn us just for happening to pick the wrong one? Now personally, I think God can do what God wants; adjusting our theology until God satisfies our sensibilities only guarantees that we’re worshiping a God we have essentially invented, so I don’t believe in ruling out these kinds of things too quickly. Yet my friend’s question is legitimate: How is the traditional Christian belief, offering heaven to those who choose Jesus and hell to those who choose some other religion, different than an unfair multiple choice test? Is there any clear reason a person should be expected to choose Christianity over some other religion? I don’t have a full answer, and I’ll admit at the outset that my argument will sidestep the nuances of what salvation can mean in different religions. However, I want to look at a passage from Romans where I think Paul explains why the Christian faith is a particular kind of faith and why this particular kind of faith is necessary for the kind of salvation that is promised in Christ. The text is Romans 4:13-25:
What strikes me here is that Abraham’s faith, as Paul describes it in this passage, wasn’t just a general kind of faith that God existed, or that God is good, or even that God would keep God’s promise. It was faith in the resurrection from the dead. Translations tend to obscure this point by translating Sarah’s condition as “barrenness,” which is surely what Paul meant but which hides the fact that the word Paul uses for her condition is simply deadness. Paul could have used the word barren easily enough, just as he could have referred to Abraham simply as old. I think the reason he didn’t is that it wasn’t enough to say that Abraham’s faith was in a God who can overcome old age or barrenness or long odds or anything else –– except for one thing: bodily death. Jesus wasn’t rescued from the cross; he was raised from the dead, and in order for our faith to be like Abraham’s, Paul is claiming, both our faith and Abraham’s must be faith in a God who raises the dead. Just checking the right box? Certain streams of Christian tradition do appear to treat faith as a box-checking exercise, but I’m arguing here that Paul would reject such a position. And he wouldn’t just reject it with the arguments we most often make today, that faith in God is a relationship rather than a religion, or anything like that. What is key, at least in this passage, is that there is an explicit connection between what we have faith in and what we receive. The logic is not, “I believe that Jesus is the Son of God, so I will go to heaven;” instead, it is, “I believe that God raised Jesus from the dead, so God will raise me from the dead.” Whoever has faith in the one who brought about Christ’s resurrection will receive that same resurrection. Resurrection and rebirth, in certain senses, were hardly rare ideas in the religions of antiquity. However, they typically made reference to cyclical events such as the seasons of the year. People had plenty of experience with death and new life, but there was little in their experience to make them expect a one-time resurrection of the kind Paul described, and this explains the resistance Paul is said to have met among Greeks in Acts 17:32. People might suggest today that resurrection happens every time a new generation replaces another, but that kind of cycle just belies the finality of death: people who die have to be replaced, because they do not return from the dead, almost without exception. And there’s the point. Paul believed that Jesus rose from the dead, in a particular place at a particular time, and many witnesses testified to it. I can’t prove that Christianity is the only true religion, but I can point (with Paul) to a very particular way in which the faith we are called to is not arbitrary, but is wrapped up in the kind of salvation we hope to receive. We will receive our resurrection because we have faith in Jesus’s. Many will argue on naturalistic grounds that a dead person, after a certain point, simply cannot be raised. That may be the case. But for those who would deny that Jesus could have risen from the dead, I’m not quite sure what kind of God they’re worshipping or what kind of salvation beyond death they think there is to be had. |
September 1st, 2007 at 2:49 pm
Your premise is that people choose one religion over another. But 99% of us–if we belong to any religion at all–belong to the one into which we were born.
Who supposedly gets saved (or, in your words, raised from the dead) is even more arbitrary than your friend’s multiple choice test suggests. Substitute the religion of your parents for “Bush” in this cartoon, and you get an idea of the choice that most people face:
http://www.stcsig.org/usability/topics/ballot/floridaballot-collins.jpg
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:32 am
Even if Jesus could have been risen from the dead, that doesn’t answer your friend’s question about a God who would make one’s belief in that unlikely proposition the basis upon which He sends people to be tortured for eternity.
I would reflect the question back: When you believe in a God who tortures, what kind of God are you worshiping?
September 3rd, 2007 at 9:52 am
@Jill: Yeah, I don’t have a great defense of hell off the top of my head–I need to do a whole post sometime on hell and all the problems surrounding it.
But I will say there are differing views within the Bible on two key points of hell:
(1) Some passages suggest that hell is eternal torment, but others suggest that those who are judged are punished in some sense for a finite amount of time, then destroyed.
(2) Some passages suggest that everyone who isn’t saved receives the same punishment, but others suggest that people are punished more or less harshly according to what they deserve.
Maybe any punishment by physical pain would be problematic from your perspective, but let’s go a step farther and suppose hypothetically that the alternative to resurrection isn’t eternal torture, but simply death. In other words, we all die, and most people simply stay dead, but those who had faith in Jesus’ resurrection are raised from the dead.
If that were the case, wouldn’t it make a lot of sense for God to only give the gift of resurrection to those people who beleived there was such a thing?
September 3rd, 2007 at 10:51 am
“But for those who would deny that Jesus could have risen from the dead, I’m not quite sure what kind of God they’re worshipping or what kind of salvation beyond death they think there is to be had.”
I’ve been hanging out with the Unitarian Universalists lately, many of whom would fall into the category of people that would believe that Jesus could not have risen from the dead. In my experience, many are not looking for salvation beyond death, rather they are focused on salvation in this life, because this is what they know and are able to have influence over.
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:19 am
@cody: I don’t know any UU’s, I don’t think, but it sounds like they have more hope than faith. Is their approach to improving the world purely humanistic, or does God fit in somewhere?
September 3rd, 2007 at 11:51 am
I’m a UU. (But I don’t think I’ve met Cody)
We covenant with one another, but don’t force people in our churches to believe in a specific dogma or creed.
Scott, it sounds as though you are backing off of a belief in hell. I celebrate that. But that would bring you closer to a Universalist, rather than, as your post began, a defender of the position that Christianity is exclusive.
September 3rd, 2007 at 1:04 pm
By the way, hi Jill. (It’s Jill from Armenia, right?) Welcome to the blog –– I assume Jeremy gave you the link?
Actually, I’m trying to argue almost the opposite of what you’re suggesting. Rejecting hell doesn’t necessarily imply universalism, but instead it refocuses the discussion on resurrection, an idea very particular to Christianity (via Judaism).
Universalism has to assume (it seems to me) either that an afterlife is just sort of a natural part of death, or else that God saves everyone without regard to what happened in their life.
I’m trying to challenge the first half of that, the idea that an afterlife is a natural part of life. On the contrary, I’d say, death is all we should be led to expect by looking at the world around us. Everyone and everything dies, so why should we assume there’s any such thing as an afterlife, or indeed, anything at all after death?
I would argue (more or less agreeing with the apostle Paul, I think) that Jesus’ resurrection is the only real reason we have to expect anything at all beyond death. I think a person can reject the idea of hell and still hold to a profoundly exclusive means of salvation, based on the singular event of Jesus’ resurrection.
Now, that doesn’t mean that God can’t save everyone in the world if God wants to –– I hope God does. But it does suggest that Jesus’ resurrection is the most viable (or perhaps the only viable) grounds on which to expect life after death. (The Bible is pretty shaky on the idea that God will save everyone –– my impression is that universalism is typically based on a misreading of a couple of verses in Paul.)
If Jesus didn’t really rise from the dead, then I think I would ascribe to beliefs more similar to UU’s. I certainly wouldn’t push Paul’s theology as strongly as I do, considering he said himself that his whole message was in vain if Christ weren’t raised (1 Cor 15:12-14).
In the end, my point isn’t to try to keep anyone out, but rather to be realistic about death. Resurrection isn’t a default, but rather will be an astonishing miracle if it happens. Death seems pretty final, after all, and we should have good reasons if we claim to believe otherwise.
September 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm
Jeremy did send me the link, and I wasn’t expecting to jump in so soon. But your topic really interests me. I hope I’m fervent without being disrespectful.
I think that most people come to Universalism because of the moral and ethical problems that are part and parcel with a belief in hell. Therefore, when you began to qualify hell as something other than eternal punishment, then it seemed to me you were acknowledging that there are some problems that might go with worshiping a God who is a torturer.
But it seems to me that our assumptions differ in a more fundamental way.
That is, I believe in a Good that is independent of God. I think, as your second paragraph states, that the idea that “God can do what God wants” (and therefore whatever God does is justified - who are we to say), is not only wrong, but it is evil.
If God can do what God wants, then there’s no reason to think there’s anything at all wrong with sending people to eternal suffering.
If God can do what God wants, then He can provide 40 virgins for every suicide bomber. He can bless the family who throws their first born into a volcano to ensure good crops for the village. … and on and on.
I’d say, No. God can’t do what God wants. When God is purported to do that which goes again fundamental assumptions of justice and fairness (perhaps such as making salvation exclusive, and certainly sending people to hell) then I know __That’s _ not_ God_.
So, we have different assumptions about the very nature of God.
I’ll just listen in if you would like. Didn’t mean jump in without knocking or saying how are you?, but I’m like that sometimes.
Glad you are well.
September 3rd, 2007 at 6:25 pm
I fall into the “God can do what God wants” category, but I believe that God wants to do what is just. If I understand the coming Kingdom of God correctly, then it seems perfectly just for God not to give salvation to everyone. If the coming Kingdom is going to be a place of eternal life, with no pain, tears, sorrow, or death, then that requires that each person is willing and able to behave in ways required to sustain that. Partly because of our own selfishness and partly because of the corrupted world we live in, we are all unable. And most show they are unwilling when presented with opportunities to follow Jesus.
If God really made the world and humanity, and if he is going to one day resurrect his creation to be a perfect, uncorrupted one, then it seems impossible that he would include people who are not on board with his agenda. Including those people would make his new creation into the same mess that it is now. Is that unjust?
September 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pm
Adding a bit to what Jeremy said, we can’t ignore the role geography can play on whether someone becomes a Christian. For example, what hope do people living in North Korea have of hearing the gospel?
September 4th, 2007 at 11:49 am
@Jill: I’m happy for you to challenge whatever you like here, even if you are new to the blog. I can moderate/delete comments if people start bullying each other, but I don’t think strong opinions are the same thing as bullying.
The way I see it, the God who is just an idea cannot do whatever he/she/it wants, but only what we think it would be reasonable for God to do. And worshipping that kind of God might be a helpful and useful exercise. However, if there is an actual God, then I don’t see God’s actions being limited by our ideas. This is why I believe in revelation in Scripture, because otherwise most everything is up for grabs.
An annoying Christian platitude says that we can’t always understand what God does. And yet, if that’s not the case, then there’s no way God is “smart” enough to be worth worshipping.
People constantly reject previous beliefs as wrong, and it’s not just because of some linear historical development –– the ancients also argued that God must do good, that God wouldn’t hurt people, etc. To my mind, it’s arrogant to claim that we are at the end state, where we know what right and wrong are for all eternity; that’s just an alternate form of fundamentalism, and it’s a big part of the reason I won’t write most things off as simply evil.
But don’t get me wrong: I know I have to decide at the end of the day what I’m willing to believe and who I’m willing to worship. I believe genocide is wrong and evil, and I don’t think God really commanded it. And I agree with you that hell seems too horrific to be true of God. But still God might do these things, whether I like it or not. If we have good reasons to see the Bible as some form of revelation from God (and I think we do), then we have to leave open possibilities that might make us angry. Job yelled at God, but he ultimately came to terms with who God (apparently) is, not who he wanted God to be.
This points to a major tension I see in Christianity: if what I believe about God seems too wrong, then I can’t bring myself to believe it; but if it seems too right, then God must not have any independent existence but instead must be a product of my own hopes and ideas. If I say that God must conform to my own ideals, then I’m admitting that I don’t care if my faith has any correspondence to any metaphysical reality, right?
We might disagree on whether a God who allows people to go to hell is worthy of worship, but I would much rather talk about that kind of God –– who at least might be real –– than just make up another God to our liking.
September 5th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Speaking of bullying, I hope I wasn’t slamming the door on anyone with that last line about what “I’d rather talk about.” I meant it rhetorically, because I felt like it helps explain how I approach theology, but other approaches are certainly welcome.
September 7th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
@micah: Well said; I like your emphasis on what is just.
Then the trick is figuring out what to do with Scripture when it seems that God is acting unjustly: does that mean we just aren’t wise enough to see why certain actions reported of God (i.e., genocide) are just after all, or does it mean that the people who wrote certain parts of Scripture were wrong to attribute those actions to God?
The first conclusion offends our sense of justice, the second makes it difficult to explain how Scripture comes from God.
I do think it’s significant that the Bible typically defends God’s actions as just, which can be seen as a theological claim somewhat independent of the particular circumstances. So for example, we can be incredulous about God’s commands of genocide, but still believe that God’s justice opposes wickedness (since the people are said to have been killed for their wickedness).
In this approach, the stories of genocide can be read allegorically, as if to say: OK, so maybe God didn’t actually approve of killing all those people, but the theological claim is that God’s justice demands the rooting out of all wickedness from the kind of world (i.e., “promised land”) that God wants to create.
This approach was already present in Christian theology in the second century, with Origen of Alexandria, who concluded that there is nothing just in killing women and children.
That’s a convenient solution, but it’s not clear what it does to biblical authority. The reading I just suggested may seem natural enough, but allegorical interpretations can also be pushed father, like in gnostic literature that interprets the creation story in Genesis as a horrible mistake (see my post here).
Presumably there are multiple legitimate interpretations of Scripture, but it seems to me that when texts can mean either one thing or its opposite, then scriptural interpretation becomes somewhat of a game, an ideological tug-of-war where texts are pushed into the service of whatever we already believe. This is bound to happen to a certain extent, but the trick is figuring out what approach is most likely to lead to the truth.
September 7th, 2007 at 4:04 pm
Jeremy said: Your premise is that people choose one religion over another. But 99% of us–if we belong to any religion at all–belong to the one into which we were born.
I think my point mainly stands when it comes to secular people –– If they don’t believe there’s salvation to be had, why should God be called unjust for not giving it to them? Or Micah’s point –– Why should God include people in God’s kingdom if they oppose the kingdom’s agenda?
I admit my post doesn’t really answer the question my friend raised, but my premise isn’t that people necessarily choose their religion. My argument is aimed at suggesting the reasonableness of Christianity more than at persuading someone to pick Christianity over another religion they were born into.
I could ask, however, what grounds other religions provide for their adherents to expect that God will make good on whatever kind of salvation has been offered. I think Christianity has a pretty good claim here, with some pretty decent historical evidence to back it up. I’m not sure other religions do.
September 8th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
when it comes to secular people –– If they don’t believe there’s salvation to be had, why should God be called unjust for not giving it to them?
Because most people don’t choose what to believe. They merely accept the dogma of their community. Justice demands that people have a choice before they are rewarded or punished for their beliefs.
Why should God include people in God’s kingdom if they oppose the kingdom’s agenda?
Because the so-called kingdom agenda has been so distorted by kingdom practitioners that any reasonable outsider should not only reject it, but run the other way.
September 8th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
Jeremy said: the so-called kingdom agenda has been so distorted by kingdom practitioners that any reasonable outsider should not only reject it, but run the other way.
I think that most people who object to church for this reason have access to churches that they think do good things (i.e., things on the kingdom agenda), but they still don’t go to them.
So I don’t buy the “churches are all evil” excuse, at least not for educated people in our society.
September 8th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Jeremy said: most people don’t choose what to believe. They merely accept the dogma of their community. Justice demands that people have a choice before they are rewarded or punished for their beliefs.
Maybe this is splitting hairs, but I think people do have a choice whether to choose what to believe. In other words, I think most people at some point in their life are given reasons to doubt what they’ve been taught. Some are willing to do the hard work of deciding what to believe; many, apparently, aren’t willing, and just take the default.
Also, I think your argument here is undermined by the huge number of people who leave the church in their 20’s. These people either (1) do decide what to believe –– or not believe, in this case, or (2) still believe in God but don’t care enough to stay in church.
Neither one of these responses is as helpless or innocent as you imply.
September 10th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
Perhaps part of problem with the stories about genocide is our western, individualistic mindset. Killing entire people groups might seem to set aside concepts of justice, unless that entire people group represents and advances an agenda of injustice. My reading of scripture seems to indicate that the truth is somewhere in the middle. Judgmemt happens to people partly because of individual actions and partly because of the actions of the community. There are times when we reap benefits simply because of community we live in and others when we are punished because of the community. No one cries “injustice” when we are blessed because of the community, but most of us do when bad things happen because of others.
I’m not sure if that makes sense. But I do think that importance we place on the individual in American is not consistent with scripture and affects the discussion we are having.
October 29th, 2007 at 9:25 pm
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